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  OM: So I was educating him on, like, dude, there's actually a way to structure things and agreements and partnerships and relationships where nobody gets over, where nobody's resentful or nobody feels like, oh, like, I just kind of got scammed a little bit, you know, or I didn't get what I wanted. OM: And, you know, I gave the example of, like, how we spent the last couple weeks talking, understanding what each of us need, what this requires, what is...

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  OM: It's a fair model because I learned a lot about structuring partnership and agreements through this process that I didn't know before. OM: I didn't know about all these protective things and clauses and stuff that you could put in there to be like, okay, X happens, that trigger is like another incentive or reward for either party, you know? OM: So it was really cool. OM: But yeah, I definitely was like, dude, like, you know, if you think we can't get someone who's an A player, like, you're wrong. Roger Holden: Yeah, it's a double-edged sword, too, because there are two sides to that argument that are defendable, you know?

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  Roger Holden: Like, at the end of the day, you can have somebody that's maybe C-leveled that has the discipline of, like, that A tier. OM: And you want to empower them, you know, because they're going to be super loyal to you. Roger Holden: But that's on you to have the foresight and be able to recognize that individual as, like, CEO and somebody that's in a position to hire. Roger Holden: But at the end of the day, like, there's going to be instances where you have somebody that's dependable or that you thought was dependent. Roger Holden: And they're not disciplined. Roger Holden: think discipline is, like, the bar that needs to be set.

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  Roger Holden: Like, if somebody's coming in and, again, just making that very clear during your onboarding process with people in conversation. Roger Holden: But sometimes it's hard to tease out. Roger Holden: Like, that's the downside of trying to be in a position that you're in or, like, being in a position to hire people. Roger Holden: Sometimes people take advantage of that. OM: They see something that's worth a lot and they just run with Honestly, Cora, dude. OM: Like, I'm like, when I told Mario, not that, again, she didn't have any malice intent. OM: She's just naive.